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The Price Is Wrong For Palmer

The Raiders paid a hefty price for Carson Palmer.

Let me tell you bad of an idea it is that the Oakland Raiders gave up so much for Carson Palmer:

First of all look at Carson Palmer’s production last year. he threw for over 4000 yards again but most of it came in garbage time as the Cincinnati Bengals limped to a 4-12 record and a massive overhaul in the offseason. Palmer was deceptively horrible as he consistently overthrew receivers, threw horrible interceptions and killed more Bengals drives then I can remember. People want to blame Chad Ochocinco for all of the issues in Cinci last year but it’s not his fault that Palmer couldn’t hit him, Terrell Owens, Jermaine Gresham, Jordan Shipley or any of their 89 talented receivers at all.

Palmer should’ve taken most of the fall for that season because it was all on his shoulders. Ever since his knee injury in the playoffs against the Steelers years ago Palmer hasn’t been the same QB. Maybe he’s scared to get hit but the simple fact is that he wasn’t losing accuracy and arm strength and couldn’t get the ball up the field at all.

Speaking of blame here’s reason number two; Palmer’s attitude towards the Bengals was a joke. People kept making excuses for Palmer’s behavior saying that it was because Bengals ownership is extremely cheap (which is a fact) and that they didn’t want to build a winner. Reality is that the Bengals were building something and all of Palmer’s backers didn’t want to see it.

The team had just come off of a AFC North title and added players through the draft and gave Palmer more weapons than you could imagine. It was up to Palmer to make it work and he didn’t. instead of bearing down and going at it again he whined, complained moaned and wanted out of Cinci. He told ownership that he would rather retire than play another game in Cinci and bragged that he had $80 million in the bank to work with.

So Bengals Owner Mike Brown did what most GM’s should do in this situation, he told Palmer to stay home, drafted Andy Dalton and moved forward.

(side note: let’s give props to Mike Brown for not punking out to a player’s demands. Brown isn’t the most liked guy in Southern Ohio but he showed gumption in pressing ahead and not giving in to Palmer’s demands and did what was right for the team. what he got was a steal of a deal and more insurance for the Bengals future as the team looks like it’s getting better by the week.)

Andy Dalton is doing just fine in Palmer's place in Cinci.

That brings us to point three; do you see the Bengals without Palmer in the locker room? When the Colts lost Peyton Manning they fell flat on their face and haven’t gotten up since. The Bengals have thrived with Dalton who looks like the real deal and A.J. Green who is a beast of a wide receiver and will only get better. If Palmer is such an elite QB then why is a his now former team, who were supposed to be terrible, 4-2 and talking about the playoffs?

There have been whispers about how the locker room is much more peaceful and fun without Palmer (or Ochocinco) in it. is this really a guy you want to carry your team to the playoffs.

The final point is this; the Raiders gave the Bengals 2 possible first round picks in this year and next year’s draft to get Palmer. That’s insane.

No other team in their right mind would pay that much for a QB especially now that draft picks are much cheaper and when you look at the fact that scouts all say that Palmer isn’t the same QB as he was before 2005.

I don’t care how good of a relationship Palmer has with head coach Hue Jackson, or the fact that you needed a QB, the price was too high for a QB that is not elite, has arm and accuracy issues, and hasn’t played a game all year long.

Also think about his, you gave up a 3rd round pick in the supplemental draft to get Terrell Pryor and make him your QB of the future. That’s three picks you handed off for QB’s and one might never see the light of day in Oakland. if the Palmer deal doesn’t work then the Raiders just killed themselves for two years in the draft and could fall right back to the 5 or 4 win plateau in no time.

This experiment gets started this weekend as Palmer will get his first start of the season against the suddenly awoken Kansas City Chiefs. Palmer will have to get to know his receivers quickly and get the offense down just as quick.

If he does and the Raiders are successful then forget I ever wrote this blog…

But if he doesn’t then the Raiders will pay dearly, and Mike Brown will reap the rewards of it.


A Bittersweet Sugar Bowl Win

The Buckeyes won... but should everyone involved feel jubilated?

As the crowd filed out of the Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana Liz and I walked together basking in the glory of Ohio State’s first victory against an SEC foe in their 31-26 victory over the Arkansas Razorbacks.

The crowd screamed out O-H from blocks away and I couldn’t even yell I-O back because of my hoarse voice from screaming during the game. That was due to a combination of trying to be louder than the Arkansas continent, which was so huge that it seemed like all of Fayetteville followed the Hogs to Nawlins (side note: for anyone that thinks our O-H-I-O chant is annoying, sit through three hours of constant WOOOOOO PIG SOOIE chants. It got to the point where the echo of the Hogs annoying chant made me want to grab ear plugs or stab myself in the ear.), and Jim Tressel almost giving the game to the Hogs (side note 2: If Tressel lost this lead he should’ve been fired the next day. Tresselball is going to cost him his job one year I promise you.).

As we walked towards the French Quarter we replayed the game in our heads; the huge second quarter, Cameron Haywood and Dexter Larimore’s career making games, the block punt that almost cost us, and finally the interception by Soloman Thomas that saved us.

Then I said to Liz “isn’t it funny that the guys that should’ve been suspended were the ones that one the game for us?” She smirked and said yeah but I don’t think she or any Buckeye fans truly understand what just happened.

The Buckeyes won the game and did so by beating the SEC at their own game with speed and physicality. The offensive line led by left tackle Mike Adams barely let any Hog put his hands on quarterback Terrelle Pryor and He and running back Dan Herron found holes to run through all day.

Receiver Devier Posey was able to get separation from the Arkansas defensive backs including a second quarter touchdown that ultimately was the difference in the game. Now read those last two paragraphs again, Adams, Pryor, Herron and Posey.. those were the guys who shouldnt have played in the game due to suspensions from improper benefits received. Instead they, as well as Thomas, were the deciding factors in the Buckeyes victory (well that and the defense of Arkansas was absolutely horrendous, again.). If they don’t play in this game who knows if Joe Bauserman, Brandon Saine and Dane Sanzenbacher could’ve had the same type of performance.

Soloman Thomas seals the win, even though he should've been suspended.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll take the W. Ohio State needed to shut up critics like Mark May who constantly bash them and slurp the mighty SEC (side note 3: wasn’t it great that he was booed loudly during the postgame interviews? We beat the SEC and let May have it in the same night, love it.), the win gives the University the respectability it rightfully deserves and saved the Big Ten from further embarrassment that it’s already suffered in 2010.

Yet I feel weird accepting this victory as sort of a triumph. We won in part because we got a pass from the NCAA. The NCAA thought about how the game might be impacted with the loss of our main guys and suspended them based on their infractions, and the timing of the game.

If this were before Toledo or Eastern Michigan in the early portion of the season they most certainly would’ve gotten the hammer for five games without question (hi A.J. Green), but they benefited from the fact that it was the Sugar Bowl and Allstate paid good money to have a good contest. For them Ryan Mallett couldn’t square off versus Bauserman, it would’ve been a disaster.

More than money, and the NCAA, is the fact that every big moment was punctuated by the players mentioned. Pryor’s feet kept us on front, Herron scored a touchdown and got key first downs as did Posey, and the final icing on the cake was the Thomas pick. These are technically heroes who we will tell stories to our kids about how they came through in the clutch and ended that damned SEC streak of dominance when last week we wanted to burn them at the stake for betraying us and disrespecting our institution for trading prized heirlooms for tattoos.

What that is, is the old adage that I tell everyone that lookedat me crazy when I watched Randy Johnson choke it up for the Yankees or watch Wade Redden was the Rangers money while we missed the playoffs last year. Everyone loves a winner and winning atones sins whether it’s right or wrong. One minute you can be a bum, the next your a god and the world is ok.

Ask Mike Vick, Ben Roethlisberger, Mike Tyson and Tiger Woods. If you screw up but come back and win everyone forgives and forgets, but if you press forward an don’t come through it will always hang over your heads.

That’s what makes this victory so great and so disturbing. I still hate their guts for putting personal luxuries over loyalty of their school and basically getting patted on the back for getting the school more money. At the same time you have to admire that these guys came out focused, and determined to put all of that behind them and put together classic performances with the world on their shoulders and watching. Pryor and company were dropped into the lions den with the crowd calling for blood and persevered coming out on top.

I sound like a Scrooge but it’s how I feel. One minute I’m mocking Arkansas’s chant (WOOOOOOOO KICK ROCKS!!!), the next I’m stewing about how this victory will be viewed in the long term.

Whatever I come to I have to face the facts, we won, whether the NCAA is right or wrong our guys went out there and did their jobs. We finally knocked out the SEC and we got the monkey off of our backs. We also will forgive the players who made it all happen but will pay for their indiscretion though it will be later then when it should’ve been.

Whether right or wrong that’s how it is. I guess I shouldn’t be too grumpy about it especially when me, Liz and 20,000 Buckeye fans went home happy chanting SEC all up and down the French Quarter in celebration. Winning makes you happy, no matter what you do or what happens to make it happen.